Comments on: Are more nursing degrees too much? http://nursespto.com/doctor-nurse/ Making our time off, pay off. Mon, 16 Aug 2010 17:37:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Shannon http://nursespto.com/doctor-nurse/comment-page-1/#comment-528 Shannon Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:56:45 +0000 http://nursespto.com/?p=1078#comment-528 First off why would anyone not want a profession to have terminal degree? How many PhD.s in Nursing do you know? I promise you that I would not begin to say"Why do Surgeon's need Critical Care Fellowships?" My God stay in the OR and don't try to take care of patients in the ICU, leave that for the Pulmonary Critical Care specialists. That is just wrong I am grateful that you chose to advance your training. I am grateful for any further education you get because you can teach others what you have learned. You are a better physician at the bedside for it. Our profession is still evolving. A few hundred years back physicians did not have to go to college to call themselves a Medical Doctor. We need our Nurse scientist whose specialty is researching nursing interventions that help change our practice and healthcare. Most evidence -based nursing interventions are not done by Associate degree nurses, LPN's, BSN's or even Master's prepared nurses. It is our doctorate prepared nurses who are doing the research. Most did not get their doctorates on-line. Look at reducing ventilator acquired pneumonias in the ICU. Those researched nursing interventions are saving lives and reducing LOS in the ICU and guess what they were proven effective by RN's who have PhDs in nursing. They headed up this research. That is just one reason why we should be proud as nurses that we have those calibar scientists in our field. Those nurses are not epidemiologist or microbiologist, although they had to know a great deal about both fields. There are many types of doctorates in nursing just like there are many specialties among physicians. Why would you even debate this? Sorry it is offending to me that you are not in my field but feel you can make comments on how my profession should handle it's research. It would be like me writng a blog saying Plastic Surgeons should be the only MD's doing liposuction. I don't know enough about the training to make an informed opinion. No nurse on the floor or MD should question why a PhD. in Nursing is needed. If we took all the research away that those individuals have done more patients would be dying, period. That it something to be proud of. Yes our education is evolving and changing and frustrating at times that is what healthcare is about. First off why would anyone not want a profession to have terminal degree? How many PhD.s in Nursing do you know? I promise you that I would not begin to say”Why do Surgeon’s need Critical Care Fellowships?” My God stay in the OR and don’t try to take care of patients in the ICU, leave that for the Pulmonary Critical Care specialists. That is just wrong I am grateful that you chose to advance your training. I am grateful for any further education you get because you can teach others what you have learned. You are a better physician at the bedside for it. Our profession is still evolving. A few hundred years back physicians did not have to go to college to call themselves a Medical Doctor. We need our Nurse scientist whose specialty is researching nursing interventions that help change our practice and healthcare. Most evidence -based nursing interventions are not done by Associate degree nurses, LPN’s, BSN’s or even Master’s prepared nurses. It is our doctorate prepared nurses who are doing the research. Most did not get their doctorates on-line. Look at reducing ventilator acquired pneumonias in the ICU. Those researched nursing interventions are saving lives and reducing LOS in the ICU and guess what they were proven effective by RN’s who have PhDs in nursing. They headed up this research. That is just one reason why we should be proud as nurses that we have those calibar scientists in our field. Those nurses are not epidemiologist or microbiologist, although they had to know a great deal about both fields. There are many types of doctorates in nursing just like there are many specialties among physicians. Why would you even debate this? Sorry it is offending to me that you are not in my field but feel you can make comments on how my profession should handle it’s research. It would be like me writng a blog saying Plastic Surgeons should be the only MD’s doing liposuction. I don’t know enough about the training to make an informed opinion. No nurse on the floor or MD should question why a PhD. in Nursing is needed. If we took all the research away that those individuals have done more patients would be dying, period. That it something to be proud of. Yes our education is evolving and changing and frustrating at times that is what healthcare is about.

]]> By: Steve http://nursespto.com/doctor-nurse/comment-page-1/#comment-521 Steve Tue, 15 Dec 2009 03:22:54 +0000 http://nursespto.com/?p=1078#comment-521 How many RN's are REALLY interested in a Ph.D in Nursing? Where is the financial payoff for all of that money spent to get that level of education? Hell, at this point in my life (I'm 49), I'm not seeing any financial payoff to spending several thousand dollars for a BSN. (I have a B.A in a un-related liberal arts area and an A.D in Nursing) I think the entire discussion of Ph.D nurses is another symptom of the "Balkanization" of nursing that already exists: ADN, Diploma Nurses, LVN's, LPN's, BSN's. As a profession, we have more divisions and disagreements than a bunch of catty soriorties. I How many RN’s are REALLY interested in a Ph.D in Nursing? Where is the financial payoff for all of that money spent to get that level of education? Hell, at this point in my life (I’m 49), I’m not seeing any financial payoff to spending several thousand dollars for a BSN. (I have a B.A in a un-related liberal arts area and an A.D in Nursing) I think the entire discussion of Ph.D nurses is another symptom of the “Balkanization” of nursing that already exists: ADN, Diploma Nurses, LVN’s, LPN’s, BSN’s. As a profession, we have more divisions and disagreements than a bunch of catty soriorties.

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]]> By: lipodoc http://nursespto.com/doctor-nurse/comment-page-1/#comment-520 lipodoc Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:58:04 +0000 http://nursespto.com/?p=1078#comment-520 I couldn't agree more!! I think all of medical education should probably have two tracks - a clinical track with a much greater focus on technical pearls, and a research or academic track with more emphasis on theory. And I think your point about ever more advanced curricula in the absence of increased re-imbursement for that education is very valid as well. I couldn’t agree more!! I think all of medical education should probably have two tracks – a clinical track with a much greater focus on technical pearls, and a research or academic track with more emphasis on theory. And I think your point about ever more advanced curricula in the absence of increased re-imbursement for that education is very valid as well.

]]> By: NPs Save Lives http://nursespto.com/doctor-nurse/comment-page-1/#comment-511 NPs Save Lives Sun, 13 Dec 2009 04:41:53 +0000 http://nursespto.com/?p=1078#comment-511 I don't believe that a Doctorate of Nursing is a necessity at this time. At least with the curriculum that it entails. I want more clinical information and hands on training, not more research and another "project" to do. Dear God! The thesis was enough. I want to know the most advanced techniques and the most updated information in order to care for my patients that I already have now. I can't afford to take a hiatus to go back to a full time curriculum in order to advance a career in which I can't yet use for independent practice or more money. The BSN has supposed to be the norm as an entry level but it still has not happened. I also think that the BSN needs to include way more clinical education rather than all of the theory. I don’t believe that a Doctorate of Nursing is a necessity at this time. At least with the curriculum that it entails. I want more clinical information and hands on training, not more research and another “project” to do. Dear God! The thesis was enough. I want to know the most advanced techniques and the most updated information in order to care for my patients that I already have now. I can’t afford to take a hiatus to go back to a full time curriculum in order to advance a career in which I can’t yet use for independent practice or more money. The BSN has supposed to be the norm as an entry level but it still has not happened. I also think that the BSN needs to include way more clinical education rather than all of the theory.

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